Hello, everyone, and welcome to Talk Nerdy. Today is Monday, November 18th, 2024, and I'm the host of the show, Dr. Kara Santa Maria. And as always, before we dive into

this week's episode, I want to thank those of you who make Talk Nerdy possible. Remember,

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Daniel Lang, David J.E. Smith, Mary Neva, Brian Holden, David Compton, Gabrielle F. Harmeo, Joe Wilkinson, Joseph Lemore, Pasquale Jalati, Rika Maharaj, and O'Rika Hagman. Thank you all so much. All right. This week we have the opportunity, and this is another episode where we chatted

before the election. So you may hear some prognostication. I actually don't remember.

We were probably pretty nervous when we were talking about it and did not yet know the outcome.

But I had the opportunity this week to chat with Anu Gupta. He's a human rights lawyer,

a scientist, and the founder and CEO of Bemore with Anou, a professional development company

that trains corporate, nonprofit, and government leaders to advance inclusion and wellness

by focusing on breaking bias.

And he's got a new book out with the same title.

It's called Breaking Bias, where stereotypes and prejudices come from and the science-backed method to unravel them.

So without any further ado, here he is, Anu Upta.

Well, Anu, thank you so much for joining me today.

Thank you so much for having me.

I am excited to talk about your new book, Breaking Bias, where stereotypes and prejudices come from

and the science-backed method to unravel them.

And so before we even get into all of these science-backed methods

and how you've come to know what you know,

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