Welcome to office hours. I'm David Meltzer. We're here at the win with Sirius XM. And our first guest

is an alchemist himself. He's a philanthropist and an artist. And what makes him interesting to me

is that he's one of the last people you think about burning out. You know, usually like artists and philanthropists,

they're on their own mellow yellow system.

You know, it's like sitting at home on the couch,

getting high, doing the art when it's ready to be done.

All the girlfriend.

Exactly.

Lots of girlfriends.

Skateboarding for lunch, you know, whatever it may take.

Have you met any artist?

He's a fantasy.

That one right there.

He's like, most of that is true.

I watched too many movies, I guess.

But more importantly, Michael Brandrup is our first guest here on office hours.

And what's interesting is he has had the corporate life of getting burnt out and searching for purpose, which I see an artist.

We're searching for a purpose to inspire them.

But his art started with, I think, a forced methodology,

something of producing art for payment and to make money to market things,

which is ironic because your last name is branded up.

You're raising brands.

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