Brené Brown and Simon Sinek on the leadership skills we need to build

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🗓️ 23 May 2023

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Brené Brown and Simon Sinek are two of the world's most influential thought leaders. They’ve shared their insights on the power of vulnerability and purpose in viral TED talks, hit podcasts, and bestselling books. Adam invites Brené and Simon to a lively discussion about the most important skills for leaders to build -- and the most vital steps for organizations to put people first. Together, they also field audience questions on earning trust, giving upward feedback, and creating better leadership opportunities for the next generation. Transcripts for ReThinking are available at go.ted.com/RWAGscripts.

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0:00.0	Ted Audio Collective
0:08.6	Hey everyone, it's Adam Grant. Welcome back to Rethinking, my podcast on the science
0:12.7	of what makes us tick. I'm an organizational psychologist and I'm taking you inside the
0:17.2	minds of fascinating people to explore new thoughts and new ways of thinking.
0:23.2	My guests today are Brunei Brown and Simon Sinek, arguably the two most influential
0:30.9	thought leaders on leadership today. Their TED Talks have over 160 million views and
0:36.7	their books have sold millions of copies. Brunei is a research professor at the University
0:41.5	of Houston renowned for her work on vulnerability, courage, shame and empathy. Her books include
0:47.5	Dare to Lead and the Gifts of Imperfection and she hosts the podcast Dare to Lead and Unlocking
0:52.8	Us. Simon is an ethnographer and mired for his ideas around purpose and service. His books
0:59.2	include Start with Why and the Infinite Game and his podcast is a bit of optimism. We're
1:04.8	often speaking on the same stages and working with the same organizations. We share similar
1:09.5	values and we've had some rich debates about the best ways to bring these values into
1:13.8	our work and our lives. Last year Brunei suggested we start a sisterhood of the Traveling
1:19.1	Podcast. So I've swung by both of their shows before and now it's my turn to host. To
1:25.1	see the wide-ranging conversation about leadership, I decided to mix things up and crowdsource
1:29.5	some questions from social media too. Let me just start by saying I want to rewind the
1:38.2	clock roughly 24 hours and I want you all to know that I am not a texture at all. I basically
1:47.9	do all my communication by email but you two are both better textures than emailers and
1:53.1	so I've abandoned my preferences in this collaboration in order to hear from the two
1:58.4	of you. So, due to flee, I went to my phone, I texted you and I said, so what do you want
2:05.2	to talk about tomorrow? And the two of you were useless. You both said I'll follow your
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