You look around at the start of an ultra and you don't see not everybody has like 3%

body fat and is like built like a gazelle a lot of

lot of different body shapes and types and if you look at people and go oh that

person's not going to finish because they don't have the right gear, they don't look like a runner, you will find that person beating you and be like, oh my God, I'm such an asshole, I can't believe I thought that.

So it really showed me that I think ultra running and maybe by extension running in general is something that is done by people who are quote unquote normal. You know, we're not super athletes and what would it be like to be able to convince more of these quote unquote

normal people that it's something that they would benefit from.

Hey everyone, thanks for tuning into the Billyang Podcast yet again, or if this is your first time,

welcome to the program.

My name is Billyang, host of the Billyang Podcasts.

I'm also a filmmaker, sometimes Ultra Runner, and today I am excited to have on none other than Brendan

Leonard, the one man voice and visuals behind Semi Rad.

Brendan first came on my radar back in I think it was February of

2018 when both of our films about running 100 miles debuted on the internet

just a few days apart and I asked myself who was this guy as I've come to find

out in addition to being a great filmmaker Brendan is the noted author of several

books including his latest one I hate running and you can too. A very

clever and humorous slant on all things endurance running which we talk about in this episode but

before that we talk about in this episode, but before that we talk about his journey into the creative space from his troubled past that involved alcohol addiction and even some jail time, his

blue-colored approach to the creative process, the importance

of punctuality, why he ran 52 marathons in 52 weeks, and much, much more.

Quick apologies, by the way,

as it happens as life happens,

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