Hi everyone. I'm Brinay Brown and this is unlocking us.

Ah, we have a great guest on the podcast today.

I'm talking again with my friend Emmanuel Acho about his new book, Illogical,

saying yes to a life without limits.

We had him on last year. We talked about his incredible groundbreaking book,

Uncomfortable Conversations with a black man.

And now he's back to talk about his new book, which at first I was like, there's some pretty

controversial, not controversial, but like turn things upside down thinking in this book but as we

talked about it while it seemed illogical made complete sense in many ways which I

guess is you know props to the title of the book.

We talk about his take that goals setting goals dumb goals are dumb we talk about his real wisdom around naysayers and critics and cheap seats

about how we can be open and receptive in the world, but at the same time

take care of ourselves and not get pummeled by, you know, advice and judgment from people whose

opinions don't really matter to us.

It's a really meaningful conversation.

We have a ton of fun.

I'm really glad you're here for it.

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