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Unlocking Us with Brené Brown

Brené with Karen Walrond on The Lightmaker’s Manifesto, Part 2 of 2

Unlocking Us with Brené Brown

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, Education, Relationships, Self-improvement

4.624.5K Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2021

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

It’s Part 2 of our two-part series with Karen Walrond, writer, activist, and longtime friend. We are talking about her new book, The Lightmaker’s Manifesto: How to Work for Change without Losing Your Joy. In Part 1, we talked about activism and how it shows up in our daily lives. And in this episode, we talk about the connection between activism and spirituality. We talk about listening to the whispers that are calling us and the self-inquiry strategies that help us know what we’re supposed to be doing. We also dig in on performative activism and outrage, as well as the realities of burnout and how joy helps curb some of that. It’s an important conversation — and one we need to be having right now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi everyone I'm Brinay Brown and this is unlocking us.

0:05.0

Welcome to part two of our two part series with Karen Walrund,

0:09.0

writer-activists, longtime friend.

0:12.0

We are talking again today about her new book, The Lightmakers Manifesto.

0:16.5

In the first part, we talked about activism, how we define it, where does the word come

0:21.4

from, what does it mean, how does it show up in our daily lives and in this

0:25.0

episode we talk about the connection between activism and spirituality we talk about

0:31.1

listening to whispers that are calling us and we talk about really deep

0:36.7

self-inquiry strategies that help us know what we're supposed to be doing.

0:41.1

Oh God I love this conversation so much. We also, we go there because we talk a lot about

0:47.7

performative activism, performative outrage, the bullshit that makes us all crazy. We talk about

0:54.1

when to be in public and when to be in private with our work. It's an important

0:58.1

conversation. It's a conversation that we need to be having right now. We also

1:02.2

talk about the realities of activism,

1:04.0

burnout, and how joy helps curb some of that. I'm glad you're here.

1:10.0

Karen Walran, part 2 of our conversation.

1:15.0

Your last day of vacation and you found time for a deep tissue massage followed by a long mud bath

1:20.0

and a two hour nap because you're an American Express Platinum Guard member and

1:23.7

booked your stay at a fine hotel and resort through Amex Travel which means a 4 p.m.

1:28.2

Checkout and those relaxing vacation vibes can keep going at the airport in

1:32.3

the Centurion lounge.

1:33.7

Just a splash.

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