Brené with Susan Cain on How Sorrow and Longing Make Us Whole, Part 1 of 2

Unlocking Us with Brené Brown

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Society & Culture, Education, Relationships, Self-improvement

4.6 • 24.5K Ratings

🗓️ 23 March 2022

⏱️ 50 minutes

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This conversation is a bittersweet breath of fresh air for me. It’s the first of two episodes with Susan Cain, the bestselling author of Quiet, about her new book, Bittersweet: How Sorrow and Longing Make Us Whole, a needed counterbalance to our society’s toxic push for constant positivity. It gives a high five to those of us who know that melancholy is our secret strength, and it gives the rest of us permission to lean into our bittersweet feelings, which actually make us more hopeful and more whole. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hi everyone I'm Brinay Brown and this is unlocking us.
0:06.0	I get to talk to my dear friend Susan Kane in a two-part interview about her new book, Bittersweet,
0:15.0	How Sorrow and Longing Make Us Whole.
0:17.4	Oh my God, this book, y'all.
0:20.2	I don't even know what to tell you about this book.
0:22.0	If you don't know Susan, she's the author of four books including
0:24.8	Quiet, The Power of Introverts, which also was a game changer for me. This book is about,
0:39.1	how the power of loving a sad song, the power of a rainy day, the power of melancholy, and we talk about that a lot, and actually how all of these things including bittersweetness they make us more hopeful
0:46.4	and more whole.
0:48.0	This is again part one of a two-part series.
0:50.6	Before we get into it I want to tell you that Susan just had a new TED Talk drop.
0:55.0	It's called The Hidden Power of Sad Songs in Rainy Days.
0:58.0	It's beautiful.
1:00.0	It's just...
1:01.0	If I sound biases because I'm totally biased I score off the charts on the
1:06.4	bittersweet survey the scale I have a deeply bittersweet state of mind all the time. It's almost like how being an introvert
1:16.4	was a bad thing before people started talking about it and people started saying
1:21.4	oh this just is who we are, and this doesn't mean this.
1:24.1	And I don't know, it just claiming my introversion and now claiming my bittersweet kind of
1:30.8	nests, my bittersweet melancholic mind sometimes, has been so powerful and affirming for me.
1:37.4	So I'm so glad you're here.
1:40.9	Busy weekends are a breeze with American Express Platinum Card. 8 a.m. wait to board
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