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🗓️ 25 April 2025
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0:00.0 | From dysfunction at the Department of Defense to a judge in Wisconsin being arrested by the FBI, it's shaped up to be quite the week. |
0:08.2 | Luckily, here to break it all down, I'm joined by Brooks and K. Part. |
0:11.9 | That is, New York Times columnist David Brooks and Jonathan K. Part, associate editor for the Washington Post. |
0:17.6 | It's great to see you both. |
0:18.9 | So, David, I want to start off with you because in the last, |
0:22.7 | for almost 100 days in now, to his presidency, just in this last week, we saw a bit of a reversal |
0:27.4 | or a walkback from President Trump on a couple of stances. One was a sort of softening on the rhetoric |
0:32.3 | towards China and the trade war. And the other, as Laura reported earlier, the administration abruptly reversing itself |
0:39.4 | on the potential cancellation of thousands of foreign student visas. I don't mean to connect these two |
0:44.4 | in any way. They are not connected, but they did happen this week. And I just wonder, as you reflect |
0:48.9 | on where they are now, what this says to you about how the administration is processing feedback |
0:53.7 | and who they're listening to. |
0:55.0 | Right. It suggests, well, as we learned in Trump, one, they don't have a long-term strategy. There's no policy process. |
1:00.0 | We're going to do this, and then we're going to stick you're a law firm, whether you're a scientific research center, whether you're a business, |
1:14.6 | who doesn't like what tariffs are doing to your business, is that you can throw sand in the gears |
1:18.6 | of this administration and they will respond. |
1:21.6 | They're going to do what they want to do. |
1:23.6 | But people who oppose what they want to do and want to defend American institutions can do lawsuits. |
1:28.3 | They can do lobbying. There can be leaking. There can be protests. There are all these things that can happen. |
1:34.3 | And they've proven this week they will have an effect. Donald Trump listened to like the CEO of Walmart. |
1:40.3 | He listens to the polls. He listens when there's all these lawsuits. |
1:45.0 | He listened to something about the international students. |
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