This is Ashley Stone and you're listening to the Comeback Podcast.

Bruce, I'm so excited to have you on the podcast. I'd love to hear a little bit about just a little bit about you, kind of like where you're from, then we can jump into your story and I was born in Los Angeles

downtown LA actually and but we lived in the suburbs not that it I don't know that it affects or not, but my mother did not have any drugs for my birth. She was hypnotized.

And she told me that years later, but I have two younger sisters and she took drugs for both of those so

you know she went through normal birth with that but it was something experimental in in

the early 50s when I was born I guess. We lived in Southern California for about my first eight years until 1960 and then we moved to Central Florida which Winter Florida, lived there for four years and then moved to

west coast of Florida where I lived much of the rest of my, much of life up until the late 90s lived in Clearwater Florida.

My mother and father both converts to the church and their teams both in their teens.

My mother she was always very devout. Once she joined the church, she just was, she stayed very faithful her entire life. My father on the other hand, by the time I was young, had stopped coming to church basically

and doing his own thing, became a jazz musician.

We occasionally, when I was young, he would come to church, you know, a couple times a year,

Easter and Christmas, but then I remember one day I asked him probably when I was about

10 years old, you know, you're to come to church with this it was either

Easter or Christmas he says no I don't want to be one of those Mormons that just

goes at Christmas and Easter so he chose to be one that never went at all basically you

know good parents though, neither, you know, no real, I had a pretty normal

upbringing. I didn't like moving from California, Florida, a lot of good friends, and of course,

when you move, you have to start all over again. When we went to Central Florida, Winterhaven, I, over the four years we were there, I made a lot of friends there. But, and then when we moved to Clearwater though, I had trouble making friends.

Winterhaven at the time was a very small town so you kind of knew everybody.

Clearwater, it's much bigger now than it was then, but still it was a bigger place than Winterhaven.

And so I took me, I had made friends with my next door neighbor, John, and he was not a member of the church and

later made friends with a couple others but never had other than two or three closed

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