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Jolenta, can we talk about all the amazing changes on our Patreon?

Let's do it because we have tons of new and different offerings over

there that we know everyone's going to love. Yep. Our live book club has wrapped and with it our

top tier membership, but at our two remaining membership tiers, we now have full-length

episodes hosted by me and Dean that come out bi-weekly. In each one, we look back

episode by episode at our time on By the Book, share behind-the-scenes secrets, and give updates

on our lives. And on top of that, we have a new weekly advice column. And that's not all.

Of course, we also have our full Patreon-only bonus season of By the Book,

where we live by things like The Artist's Way and a Mel Robbins book. It's very great season.

There are also nearly 200 mini episodes, the written rules of every book we've ever lived by, and more.

Oh, there's so much there. To get all that

and more, go to patreon.com slash listen to buy the book. That's patreon.com slash listen to buy the book.

Hey, Kristen. Yeah, Jolenta. You're someone who tends to be very, very happy for your friends when things are going well for them. You're an amazing cheerleader. Oh, I just love cheering. You know, I'm a big fan of cheering. That's why I love the marathon day so much at New York. The only point of going out there is to cheer. Just a day to cheer. It's so fun. You don't have to know anyone running even. Nope. Don't even need to do that.

But I do have to ask, do you ever get jealous of those friends you're cheering on, whether they're running the marathon or doing other very cool things? Because I'll be honest, I do sometimes get jealous. Even when I'm cheering on a friend's success, I'm like,

oh, I wish I could do that. Oh, Jolenta, come on, you know, I have absolutely struggled with jealousy,

with insecurity, with envy. I have had to grapple with it. And it turns out many of our listeners have told us that they have as well.

Yeah. And it's, it's something I'm not proud of. Yeah, I don't think any of us are proud of those

feelings. Very true. Which is all the more reason we should face those feelings head on. And today,

we're going to, because we have a guest who's done just that with a circle of

friends that might make anyone a little insecure or a lot yes indeed i cannot wait to talk to him

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