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Cardinal McElroy, DC’s new archbishop, wants a church of ‘radical inclusion’

Jesuitical

America Media

Spirituality, Christianity, News, News Commentary, Religion & Spirituality

4.8949 Ratings

🗓️ 10 January 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

On Jan. 6, Pope Francis announced that Cardinal Robert McElroy will be the next archbishop of Washington, D.C. Cardinal McElroy, currently the bishop of San Diego, spoke with Zac and Ashley on the “Jesuitical” podcast back in 2023, and this week, they’re revisiting that conversation. In it, Cardinal McElroy embraces the synodal vision and pastoral approach of Pope Francis and calls upon the church to dismantle the “structures and cultures of exclusion” that alienate some Catholics, including women, the poor, divorced-and-remarried couples and L.G.B.T. Catholics.  Zac, Ashley and Cardinal McElroy discuss:  - Cardinal McElroy’s 2023 article in America on the Eucharist and radical inclusion for L.G.B.T. people, women and others - Why synodality is the connective tissue of the Catholic faith that enables us to work through disagreements in communion  - How to handle polarization in the church on issues like sexuality, marriage, racism and poverty In Signs of the Times, Zac and Ashley discuss President Joe Biden’s decision to commute the death sentences of 37 of the 40 prisoners on federal death row to a sentence of life in prison without parole; Pope Francis’ appointment of Italian missionary nun Sister Simona Brambilla as the first woman to lead a major Vatican dicastery; and the exciting news that a soccer-loving Catholic nun from Brazil is officially the oldest living person at nearly 117.  Links for further reading:  Cardinal McElroy to lead D.C. archdiocese, Vatican announces Cardinal McElroy on ‘radical inclusion’ for L.G.B.T. people, women and others in the Catholic Church Biden commutes 37 death row sentences before Trump can resume executions A woman leads a Vatican office for the first time ever. Why now? Historic first: Pope Francis appoints woman as prefect of Vatican dicastery A soccer-loving nun from Brazil is world’s oldest living person at nearly 117 Zac’s New Year’s recommendation: What if you're already on top of things? You can follow us on X and on Instagram @jesuiticalshow.   You can find us on Facebook at facebook.com/groups/jesuitical.  Please consider supporting Jesuitical by becoming a digital subscriber to America Media at americamagazine.org/subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:44.2

Hello and welcome to Jesuitical, a podcast from America Media for saints and sinners.

0:50.3

You can join us each week for honest conversations about the Catholic Church and our world today, sometimes over drinks.

0:53.0

I'm Ashley McKinless, and I'm joined by Zach Davis.

0:53.9

Happy New Year!

0:54.7

Happy New Year, Zach. I've seen you Zach Davis. Happy New Year! Happy New Year,

0:59.7

Zach. I've seen you a lot since the year, so it feels a little. It's what, January 8th?

1:03.4

It's too late. This is the last day. January 8th, yeah. I talk to you about the, there's this great Kirby enthusiasm episode where Larry David gets very upset about people saying

1:08.5

happy new year too late into January. And I do think January 8 is the official cutoff.

1:13.9

So this is it.

1:14.6

But we picked up a new New Year's Day tradition together with some friends this year.

1:19.5

We sure did.

1:21.0

This was your idea, I will say.

1:22.8

Bit of a baptism of sorts.

1:24.5

You could say that.

1:25.4

So here in Brooklyn, or there in Brooklyn, we're now in Manhattan, there is a polar plunge where New Yorkers go down to Coney Island Beach and jump in the very cold Atlantic Ocean on New Year's Day. Yeah, I had this idea on New Year's Eve after a drink or two. A very sober decision.

1:44.7

Yep. And yeah, morning came and it was time to go to jump in the water. I loved it. I honestly, like, it was a huge party. Everyone is in such a good mood. It's New Year's Day. It wasn't that cold this year. The air wasn't. It was windy. The ocean was very cold. But you just go in and out. You're good to go.

2:01.4

Yeah. We've often gone there on Fourth of July, and it felt kind of like the inverse of that.

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