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🗓️ 3 October 2023
⏱️ 41 minutes
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0:00.0 | This program is sponsored by the Covley Foundation based in Los Angeles, California. |
0:06.8 | The Covley Foundation is dedicated to advancing science for the benefit of humanity. |
0:12.0 | I'm Alan Older, and this is Clear and Vivid, Conversations about Connecting and Communicating. |
0:27.4 | She was so close to dying, she looked like a wet washcloth. |
0:30.8 | I said, leave her with me, it'll soon be time for her to be flying and we'll manage |
0:36.5 | the release from my backyard here. |
0:39.4 | But things happened that were unexpected, that caused a delay in that process. |
0:48.0 | That's Carl Saphina. |
0:49.8 | And the unexpected delays to was releasing that baby owl turned into a remarkable and intimate |
0:55.2 | relationship. |
0:56.6 | His new book, Alfie and me, What Owls Know, What Humans Believe, is a lyrical description |
1:02.9 | of how the COVID locked down, nurtured that relationship. |
1:07.6 | But the book is more than that, Alfie's story is also an opportunity for Carl to explore |
1:12.0 | Western culture's flawed relationship with the rest of nature. |
1:18.4 | Carl it's great to see you again. |
1:20.2 | That's so great to see you Alan, thank you. |
1:22.4 | Last time you were here, we had a wonderful talk about your previous book, where you talked |
1:26.3 | about the feelings and the thinking capacities of other animals. |
1:32.2 | And now I get the impression that this book called Alfie and me is about an experience |
1:37.6 | that maybe went deeper than any other one you've had with an animal. |
1:42.0 | Is that true? |
1:43.0 | I think that is true, I think that's true. |
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