Cases That Haunt Us | A Dark Humor Tell All of First Responders

Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum

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🗓️ 15 May 2024

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Guest Bio and Links:

Joe Scott Morgan is a former death investigator, forensic professor at Jacksonville State University, and author. Joe is also the host of Body Bags with Joe Scott Morgan.

Joseph Giacalone is a retired NYPD sergeant, author, and adjunct professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice. Joseph is also the host of True Crime with Sarge.

Lisa Ribacoff is a New York licensed private investigator and polygraph examiner, known for her expertise in handling sensitive cases.

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In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, Sheryl discusses the profound impact that traumatic cases have on first responders. Sheryl is joined by Joe Scott Morgan, Joseph Giacalone, and Lisa Ribacoff for a part II series. They discuss personal anecdotes that underscore the intense pressures and occasional absurdities encountered by those in the field. From confronting death daily to dealing with the aftermath of trauma, they all share how they've used dark humor as a vital outlet for emotional release and trauma bonding.

This content may include explicit material. Listener discretion is advised.

Show Notes:

(0:00) Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum
(0:30) Laura Ingle’s dedication to journalism
(1:50) Laura's ethical decision during a sensitive moment
(8:30) Sheryl recounts a terrifying yet humorous encounter
(15:00) Joe's encounter with a bizarre death celebration
(22:00) “We could always count on you to say something inappropriate at the right time.”
(24:00) Lisa shares a story of a polygraph test gone hysterically absurd
(33:30) “If a bank robber takes over the lens of a surveillance camera, that's M. O. If he then feels the need to tear his clothes off and dance naked in front of that same camera, that's signature.”
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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award-winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, a Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.

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0:00.0	Joe Scott Morgan, Joseph Jackalow, Lisa Rybakov.
0:12.6	Just with the four of us here tonight, I think it's important to talk about why we decided to do this now.
0:20.0	Our friend, Laura Engle, who's a investigative reporter
0:24.7	with News Nation, has been doing a phenomenal job, boots on the ground, out in Oklahoma.
0:32.8	And she has been covering the murder of the two moms, Veronica and Jillian. And again, I mean, her coverage
0:44.1	is just, she's a pro. That's all there is to it. And she will, you know, stay there until the
0:51.7	story is done. And she's a wife. She's a mother, she's a friend to all of us on this show.
0:57.4	And when she left Oklahoma, she flew home and then stopped by the Hamptons to see all of us and
1:04.4	support us, go to Joe Scott session, you know, hang out with Lisa and I for a while, make sure she had some individual
1:11.1	time with Sarge and they took some cute pictures and she's just that person, you know,
1:16.2	went way out of her way to make sure she was supporting all of us in a time when she was
1:21.2	probably exhausted and would have probably loved to just be at home. She left the Hamptons
1:26.7	and went on assignment to cover Trump. Well, last week,
1:31.7	she was just feet away from a young man that set himself on fire. That had to be traumatic,
1:40.6	unsettling, scary, just horrifying. But in that moment, she decided, keep the camera on me
1:51.1	or the fence. Do not film him. She did that for his mama, his family, his loved ones, his friends,
2:00.1	his coworkers,
2:09.5	she decided we are not going to exploit this man's attempted suicide.
2:13.0	And later, it was successful that he had killed himself.
2:14.6	She did that.
2:21.0	So again, we thought it was going to be important to reach out to her, which we all have,
2:31.0	make sure she's doing good, but we know that there's folks in the media, polygraphers, 9-1-1,
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