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Even The Royals

Catherine the Great Part 3: The Empress’s New Groove | 60

Even The Royals

Wondery

Society & Culture

4.4844 Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

In Part Two, Catherine the Great launched a coup and kicked her good-for-nothing husband to the curb. But turning her bold new vision for Russia into a reality is easier said than done. Catherine has to abandon some of her Enlightenment ideals and embrace her ruthless side – all while balancing her professional life and her love life. And in the end, she’ll have to decide what matters more – love, or country.

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0:00.0

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0:04.1

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0:07.5

A quick note about our show.

0:09.4

We do a lot of research for our stories, but we also aren't your high school history class,

0:13.3

so some details and scenes are dramatized.

0:16.2

And a heads up, today's episode contains discussion of birth trauma.

0:20.2

And we like our language how we like our borsh, sweet and sour.

0:24.4

So listeners, please be advised.

0:31.6

It's autumn 1763 in St. Petersburg, Russia.

0:43.3

34-year-old Empress Catherine and her lover, Gregory Orloff, are having dinner with friends at the Winter Palace. It's been two years since Kat usurped her husband Peter and became sole ruler of Russia.

0:48.3

Tonight, the wine is flowing and the mood is light.

0:52.3

This should be a chance for Kat to kick back and enjoy a night with her main man.

0:57.6

But even as she takes another sip of red, she can't relax because there's trouble in paradise.

1:04.4

Right before dinner, Orlov asked her to marry him.

1:07.9

Ooh.

1:09.3

Which sounds sweet, but the thing is, Kat said no.

1:13.6

She doesn't want to make her relationship that official.

1:16.9

She likes steering the ship solo, and she's worried about Orlov's jealousy.

1:21.7

He wants Kat all to himself and resents the fact that she spends so much time with her male

1:26.4

advisors.

1:27.8

The longer they've been together, the moody or Orlov has gotten about playing second fiddle.

1:33.2

And honestly, Catherine has been busy.

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