All right, you're good to go boys. Are we live live? Yes.

This is it. This is it. This is the show. So nice to have you. Yeah, it's good to be here. Yeah.

This is the first time we've done. No, it's not. I said the first time we've done a video show together.

It is not the Matt Fragg show back in Atlanta in that terrible studio you have. Yeah.

Nothing but black curtains and sorrow and a lot of coffee and a lot of pee. I think.

I'm going to do the episode when I was at Luke. Luke is like, I got a pee. I don't mean to be rude.

We all were ran. That's good times. But I think that was before COVID lockdowns, which

propelled online video recordings. Yeah. Don't you think that was a real podcast tanked?

Because people listen to audio podcasts on their communities more often than not.

And so everyone was like, let's throw all our money in these audio podcasts,

all this stuff. And it's like, nope, just a bunch of people. You're done with their Zoom call.

And they watch YouTube videos. Did you actually see the numbers?

Oh, yeah. Just high-pulled us. Oh, yeah. And also, you know, because I work with a

sentient to produce every need to shut bow, that they were like, oh, we can't wait.

And then I was like, oh, this did not grow exponentially. Like we thought. Yeah.

Whereas the video is the point. Yeah. Because I still think we get more audio downloads than

video downloads. And that's been that way since like 2006. There's a technology podcast.

You still follow one of the first people doing podcasts. And he was like, yeah,

are we spend tens of thousands of dollars to make these videos. And everyone's like,

nah, I'll just listen to the audio. Yeah. No, that's right. Yeah.

Which is, I mean, especially the long form fair enough, who's going to sit down for three hours.

And is that your foot or someone knocking on the door?

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