Good day everybody and welcome to Pints with Aquinas.

Today we have a debate for you.

The debate will be between Eric Ibarra and Ubi Petrus.

The resolution they will be debating is, is the Vatican One concept of primacy manifest in the 5th and 6th centuries of the undivided church?

Here's how the schedule will break down.

We're going to begin with 20 minute opening statements each, then 20 minute rebuttals.

We'll have a quick break after that.

When we come back, we'll do 15-minute cross-examinations,

and then we will conclude with a 50-minute open dialogue.

We thought it was really important that the two of these fellas could lay out their case

before they got to that point.

So without further ado, here is Eric Ibarra and Ubi Petrus.

Good to have you.

Thank you, Matt. Fabulous to be here. Thank you.

Thank you for making the trip. All right, well why don't you just spend a couple of minutes introducing yourself and then we'll get into the debate.

Yeah, so I'm Eric Ibarra, a Catholic apologist. Many people know my material online. I am from Orlando Florida married six six boys and yeah I

have a Patreon account at classical Christian thought and a YouTube channel

classical Christian thought and happy to be here

my name is Denny Selling I'm from from Seattle, Washington, and I live in Henderson, Nevada.

Flew in on, I believe it was Thursday morning.

And I am just one simple electrician who runs his own business.

I have two daughters and a wife, and I'm trying to be here.

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