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podcasting. I'm Natasha Aronson I'm an assistant commissioner for the BBC and I work on

making podcasts my real passion is discovering unbelievable unheard stories and working with the biggest

stars who can really bring those stories to life.

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BBC sounds This is five-life boxing

A change of pace this week

Often we're on the hundred and first, I've invented that, five-star hotel, I've invented that,

having a glorious chat with somebody overlooking some enormous vista. I've invented that. This pod is different. I'm

going to sit down with a world champion and talk boxing. It's what we call the

housekeeping pod. I'm Steve Bunz and this is most definitely five live boxing. So every now and again you have to sit down with someone to just have a

chat and a really informal chat and what we call it housekeeping going over stuff that's happening

stuff that's not happening stuff that might happen and stuff that we want to happen now

there's one person I like to sit down with which of course is a lie because the last time we sat down was exactly 12 months ago

So that's how popular she is in my mind. So I can't even lie and say I love sitting down with her

Because if you sit down with someone once every 12 months and you claim that they're a really good friend you're lying.

No, that's not true. That's not strictly true. Anyway, I've got E. E. E. E. E. E.

It's been a year since we sat in another pub.

Now we're in another pub in central London and yet we still not had a drink.

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