Hi, this is Ruthie Rogers, host of Ruthie's Table 4.

This week, my guest is Zoe Saldania, and what a woman she is.

I come from a family, and I do know this, that it's a cultural thing.

We dance.

If you fail the test, we danced it if you passed it.

You know what I mean?

You just dance, and you dance merengen, you dance salsa.

And everybody sits in someone's back to your heart.

Listen on the IHeart radio app, Apple, or wherever you find your podcasts.

You don't need another podcast.

You've got too many already.

But if you're looking for one that actually changes something, a way to

take control of the chaos and find meaning, well, then maybe the one you feed is for you. I'm Eric Zimmer,

and I bring real conversations with real people to help you feed the best part of yourself.

No hype, no fluff, just wisdom that works. Listen to the one you feed on the

IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey man, what are you into? I have the hookup.

The hookup? The hookup? The hookup for what? I'm solving a mystery through sex and haven't made a

private dick joke until now.

Poppers?

Why are there so many poppers?

All roads lead to...

The Hookup.

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