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The moment of the black pain window is open.

The economic cycle in Hollywood says, oh, we want black stories, we want black stories,

we want black stories.

And I didn't even like, I would be lying to say I didn't think about it or notice that

that was what was happening to me.

But I didn't care.

I just wanted, I just wanted the money.

And I wanted, that's a cop out too.

Like, I wanted the money, but I wanted something that felt like love, fame, success.

You understand, like, you go from artist, writer who's making nothing.

Yeah.

To all of a sudden, like, you can buy a kind of a cool car.

You can get a new place.

But you're kind of living the American fiction story, right?

You're selling black pain.

Selling it.

In your work.

Yes.

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