Hey, chameleon listeners, Josh Dean here, and I have something special for you this week.

It's an episode of a podcast I've been enjoying called Agent Pale Horse, and it's the second season of CBC's White Hot Hate.

It tells the story of FBI undercover agent Scott Payne, whose job it was to infiltrate the most dangerous gangs of our times,

outlaw bikers, drug cartels, and the international neo-Nazi networks

hell-bent on inciting a race war. He was taking down these groups from within, and Scott was good at it.

People confided in him their most audacious plans for mass violence and domestic terrorism.

After a 28-year-long career pretending to be somebody else, Agent Payne is ready to tell

his side of the story in an unvarnished view of life undercover. In this episode, Scott has his

first in-person meeting with The Base, alone. He needs to convince the international neo-Nazi

network that he's one of them. Okay, here comes the preview. You can find more episodes

of Agent Pale Horse wherever you get your podcasts. The following episode contains strong

language and descriptions of violence. Please take care when listening.

Okay. So let me start with the bass. All right. What a great group of guys. Okay. So let me start with the bass. All right.

Ah, what a great group of guys.

Okay, so how did you...

Let me introduce you to Scott.

He's 6'4, 260, likes cowboy boots and Jack Daniels.

And in the summer of 2019,

he wanted to join a group of white supremacists.

They called themselves The Base.

And Scott had already passed a crucial phone interview.

That Saturday, they reached out to me and said,

...