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True Crimecast

CHAOS and Control - Charles Manson and MK Ultra

True Crimecast

Stove Leg Media

True Crime, Society & Culture, Documentary, Personal Journals

4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 16 April 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

Charles Manson—cult leader, murderer, madman… or government pawn? In this explosive episode of True Crimecast, Jamie and John dive into a theory that flips the infamous Manson murders on their head. Drawing from journalist Tom O’Neill’s shocking book CHAOS, they explore the chilling possibility that Manson wasn’t acting alone—or even acting on his own volition. Could he have been manipulated by the CIA through mind control programs like MK-Ultra and Operation CHAOS?

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0:00.0

Stoveleg Media, Igniting Conversation.

0:13.0

Welcome to True Crime to Go. What can I get for you?

0:16.8

Yeah, I'm looking for a conspiracy, but just like I like my ribs, I want a lot of meat to it.

0:22.4

You know what I'm saying?

0:25.0

Pull up to the second window and we'll see you next crime.

0:32.2

Welcome to True Crime to Go.

0:34.4

I am John here with Jamie.

0:36.1

How you doing, man?

0:37.0

I'm doing pretty good. Didn't go out

0:39.6

looking for conspiracy theory today, but, you know, I feel like every day I stumble upon a new one,

0:45.8

and this one seemed interesting enough to bring to true crime to go. We were on a group chat the

0:51.6

other day with our good friend, Chris, and I described you as a

0:54.8

healthy mix of Hank Hill and Dale Gribble because you, out of all my friends, are the one

1:00.2

who loves conspiracy theories the most.

1:02.2

I do love them, but I also, like, it's not that I believe in them.

1:05.6

I'm just very interested.

1:06.6

You're interested.

1:07.2

Yeah.

1:07.4

So that's why I said you're a healthy mix of Hank Hill's reality and Dale Gribble's fantasy.

1:13.7

Okay.

1:14.0

Love it.

1:14.7

Love it.

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