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Charles Murray on Race, IQ, and Crime

First Things Podcast

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Religion & Spirituality

4.6699 Ratings

🗓️ 14 October 2021

⏱️ 33 minutes

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On this episode, Charles Murray joins Mark Bauerlein to discuss his new book, "Facing Reality: Two Truths about Race in America."

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0:00.0

Hello there. This is Mark Bauerline with another conversation. Before we get to it, a word about one of our sponsors.

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1:02.1

We have with us today, Charles Murray.

1:04.3

He is, of course, one of the most important social scientists of our time.

1:09.0

The books well-known books include include losing ground, the bell curve,

1:13.8

and coming apart. People know those in the audience here well enough. I don't even need to say

1:18.2

the subtitles of those books. There is a new book just out entitled Facing Reality, Two Truths

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About Race in America. Thank you for joining us, Dr. Murray.

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It's my pleasure. First question, the general content of the book, In Coming Apart,

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you actually held off on racial comparisons. You focused upon on whites, different class

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groupings of whites, but you're returning to that issue. Why

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return to it now?

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