I want to welcome to the podcast today, Dr. Mark McDonald, who is a psychiatrist from Los Angeles.

He has a specialty in child and adolescent treatment, and he has been an outspoken

critic of the impacts of lockdowns and masking on other countermeasures on the happiness and

mental health of America's children. He has a book out called United States of Fear.

How America fell victim to a mass delusional psychosis. Welcome to the podcast, Dr.

Thank you, Bobby. Glad to be here. It's good to see you again.

Yeah, you too. So I really wanted you on here because I had heard one of the talks that you gave

about the impacts of lockdowns on children and on mental health of children, and it was a really

gut branching. And I had, from the beginning of the pandemic, I had tried to find out answers

from the public health authorities about what the cause of the pandemic. We were told what the

benefits would be that it would stop coronavirus, which it did not do. But nobody ever talked about

the cause. You didn't see them. The cause debated on CNN or Fox news. There were no experts on

economists, psychiatrists, doctors who were talking about the fernment of medical treatment or any

of these really important questions. They were in the lockdowns going to avert more problems than

they would cause more costs than they wouldn't impose on us. And I think nowadays people are

coming to the realization that they were a grave and catastrophic mistake for our citizens and

particularly our children. Well, I completely agree with you. I'm seeing the effects of these

government lockdown shutdowns, closures, social distancing measures, quarantining, masking,

shutting down schools, just now coming to fruition. My concerns now are actually worse than they

were a year and a half ago when I just saw it as a temporary disaster. We're now seeing this as

an ongoing problem that's probably likely in my view as a clinician to continue for years if not

generations. There's a difference between scratching your skin and getting a sunburn and then having

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