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That's one. John Moody thanks for joining us.

How are you, sir?

I'm doing very well, Stephen.

Thanks for having me.

It's our pleasure.

Thank you for coming on.

Maybe you could take a moment if you don't mind just to let people know what you do what keeps you busy.

Oh, well, many things, but sometimes just washing the dishes after dinner, but that's not what we're here to talk about.

I worked for about 26 years for Fox News in the United States, and after that I retired

and started writing books, and I've just completed the third book part of a trilogy about China and the Western world and how China is a threat to the Western world. So that's what keeps

me busy now and talking about that with people like you and working on the next book.

Excellent. Well I mean your experience at Fox News that's fascinating to me. When did you retire? I retired in 2018. 2018. Yeah, it was a tumultuous year for Fox. It was the year shortly after Roger Ailes was ousted as its chairman.

And things started to change very quickly at Fox News and I'd build up enough time and I guess enough of a pension that I thought this was the time to make a great selection.

As I will try to do at the end of this interview as you were pointing out with your previous guests, there's just an opposite moment.

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