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Morning glory America, Bozor High Canada. I'm Hugh Hewitt. That music means it's the last

radio hour of the week, Dr. Larry Arne is back. We have three more weeks in Winston Churchill's

wonderful collection of biographical essays called Great Contemporaries. Today we're going to talk

about Jackie Fisher, but it's a great second step from last week because we were talking about

the industrial base and Jackie Fisher rose to lead the Royal Navy twice and as the senior

naval officer and Churchill has essays about it. There's a lot to talk about here. Dr.

and what's the most important thing for people to know about Jackie Fisher, Lord Fisher, Admiral

Fisher at the start of this, if they haven't got great contemporaries around. He ran the Royal

Navy as first sea lord in 1904 to 1910 and from 1914 to 1915. He was a revolutionary and he

almost destroyed the career of Winston Churchill. Yep. And his good side and his bad side

were inextricably connected and both pursued with vast force. And Churchill was the British Navy

ruled the world almost from 1588 in the Spanish Armada. But certainly since the battles against

Napoleon, because then the great man Nelson, he just hemmed Napoleon in. Couldn't go anywhere.

Couldn't get down to the in the Iberian Peninsula of Spain in Portugal. And that's why the

Wellington was able to bleed Napoleon. But Napoleon took a huge armada of ships down to Egypt

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