Welcome dear friends to a very special one on one here on America first with me

Sebastian Gorker from a strategist to President Trump and currently member of the National Security Education Board.

For those who aren't familiar of what I did prior to my time in the White House or as a radio host,

my thing was strategy. I spent the better part of the 1990s and the

arts working national security issues ending up as a professor of irregular warfare and counterterrorism

in the Department of Defense at National Defense University and then at the Marine Corps University.

Spent a lot of years working with our guys in Bragg teaching as a guest lecture on the Q course,

which is the qualification course for the Green Berets. That is why our next guest for one-on-one.

Well this could very dangerously become more than just one hour chatting with him. He is

Toby Handen and he's the author of a book called First Casualty, the untold story of the CIA mission

to avenge 9-11. Toby, welcome to one-on-one. Thanks very much Sebastian, great to be with you.

So you have kind of reinvented yourself in the last year or since this book came out, I see this

very, very nicely curated posts on Instagram elsewhere with these iconic photographs

from the battle zones, from the mountains of Afghanistan, where you're taking a snippet of

this incredible story and illustrating an individual and event. Let me start with the big picture.

So I came to this issue of the G-Watt as a guy who done counterterrorism stuff. I was in the

reserves in the British territorial army, then worked at the rank corporation on al-Qaeda issues.

And then I looked at this question of insurgency and counterinsurgency, foreign internal defenses,

brag calls it. And I was convinced of the following. For all the weaknesses of the last 21 years,

what America with a very select number of allies and locals did in the October of 2001 was

absolutely incredible. In terms of small footprint, special operators, paramilitaries,

with a tiny investment of manpower, creating a strategic effect, it should be a case study of

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