Okay. All right. Let's set the stage for this evening's classic episode, fellow conspiracy

realists, cast your memory back to 2019. Nobody was really sure what would happen.

Alexander Dugan had some ideas. He had some wishes on his wish list. And we got, we got very, we finally did an

episode on something we had been talking about for, gosh, more than a decade at this point,

the idea of smart devices and surveillance. And I think this might have been the one that

radicalized us a little bit.

Maybe a bit, a tiny bit, because this is definitely a moment in time when in real time,

we realized just how much mass data collection was happening within our phones, not by necessarily

the government, but by individual third-party companies

that we all say yes to when we download their applications or reuse their services.

Who reads the terms and conditions, right?

Who reads down to paragraph 17 of the agreement, especially when you're scrolling on a phone and you're in a hurry because you've got to get the app.

Dude.

Well, and then, but then when you combine that with companies potentially giving that information to governmental entities and you combine that with actual governmental entities that have stated before, or it's been leaked before, stellar wind,

that communications on individual phones are being picked up, and even communications through the massive pipelines that go underneath the oceans.

Yeah, it's a prism of conspiracy that it probably takes five eyes to see in full, right?

And this is, this is also, this is also a shout-up for anybody who ever thought, oh, my phone

is listening to me.

The speaker is picking up something. It's so much deeper. Oh, my gosh. Ben to me. The speaker is picking up something.

It's so much deeper.

Oh, my gosh.

Ben, I'm going to say this.

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