fellow conspiracy realist we are on the road traveling abroad and that's part of why we have had a

lot of classic episodes to share with you lately uh this one this one i think speaks to uh us as well

as our guest producer matt the madman stiloh ben have you ever thought about flights as just being another form of cargo shipping where humans

are the cargo?

I think about most forms of transit with humans as the cargo.

People moving, right?

Yes, yes.

Just like a podcast, cargo ships move people.

Yeah, it's true.

And there are many, many very interesting and varying in, in provenance and accuracy, conspiracy

theories around the world, the wide world of shipping.

Yeah, let me be honest with you guys.

Noel, Matt, Rachel, back here.

Yeah, we got Rachel.

We got to give Rachel a nickname.

Yeah, yeah.

I don't know if we ever think about this, but after a long journey, especially returning home,

I can look at the most mundane of objects, say, maybe a handwritten note of places to visit in Cutter and just marvel at how far

this thing traveled to arrive at my hand. You know, it reminds me of the scene in No Country

for Old Men, right, where Sugar is talking to the gas station attendant. Sugar? Yeah, and they have a,

they weirdly enough don't talk about a strange haircut.

Instead, they talk about how far this quarter traveled through time.

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