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What we care about most is winning at all cost,

at the cost of our character, our Christ-likeness,

at the cost of our influence, and at the cost of evangelism.

Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff leadership podcast,

it's Carrie here and I hope our time together today helps you thrive in life and leadership.

Well, it's a difficult time, isn't it?

And that's why we're doing this series.

We dive into the very first of a series of interviews in this podcast series,

pasturing in a partisan age,

and oh my goodness are we in a partisan age?

And you're heading into the fall,

everybody dreaded.

And if you're looking for guidance, we got it for you.

I wanted to start off the interview part of this series with Andy Stanley.

This is the most, I've known Andy for almost 20 years.

This is one of the most transparent interviews I've ever heard. I think you're in for a treat

Andy and I talk about why picking aside sidelines the church, how to disagree politically and

what to do when people criticize you. So many of you got beat up in previous election years. Well Andy tells us what happened to him and gives us some really

good advice on how to handle it.

Hey, today's episode is brought to you

by my brand new ultimate guide to Healthy Church conflict.

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