CNLP 716 | A New Model for Funding Churches: Mark Batterson on Visionary Entrepreneurship, and The Gradual and Sudden Pattern of Success
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast
Carey Nieuwhof
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🗓️ 18 March 2025
⏱️ 79 minutes
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Summary
Mark Batterson unpacks the funding and church planting strategy of National Community Church. He shares how NCC went from 29 people to owning coffee houses and city blocks in one of America's most expensive real estate markets.
We also discuss the truth of how 'success' goes from gradual to sudden.
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| 0:00.0 | The Art of Leadership Network. |
| 0:03.0 | I had a harder time praying for churches four blocks away than four states away. |
| 0:07.1 | And part of it was just like this competitive streak that, you know, I played basketball in college. |
| 0:11.8 | And how do you get past that? |
| 0:15.8 | Well, here's what happened. |
| 0:17.4 | We made a decision. |
| 0:18.9 | Any church in the D.C. area that's preaching and practicing the gospel, we want to be shareholders, we want to get in on the IPO. |
| 0:30.9 | Welcome, the Kerry Newhoff Leadership Podcast. So glad to have you here today. Man, we're going to take a different tack today. I've got Mark |
| 0:38.8 | Batterson back on the podcast. You probably know him. We probably love him. But we are going to talk shop. |
| 0:43.9 | We're going to look at the funding model he developed for National Community Church and what it can |
| 0:48.0 | teach church planters. Basically, he didn't buy a building. He started by buying businesses and properties and then eventually |
| 0:55.6 | creating buildings that were also businesses. And I get this question all the time from young |
| 1:00.5 | leaders. How do I do this? How do I fund a church plant? And we unpack that. It's the first time I think |
| 1:06.9 | Mark's really talked about that publicly. I think you're going to enjoy it. And you'll see his |
| 1:11.2 | faith and his visionary entrepreneurship and how this pattern of being gradual and then sudden |
| 1:17.1 | comes up again and again. So for those of you who are new in leadership, I think you're really |
| 1:21.7 | going to enjoy it. Mark Batterson needs no introduction. He's a lead pastor of National Community |
| 1:26.6 | Church in Washington, D.C. |
| 1:28.9 | He has one church in multiple locations. They own and operate Ebenezer's Coffee House, |
| 1:34.1 | the Miracle Theater, the D.C. Dream Center and the Capitol Turnaround. All of them have |
| 1:39.1 | income potential as well. So he's kind of like bivocational for those of you who are bivocational. |
| 1:45.6 | He has a whole team that runs this, but this is really interesting. He's the author of 24 books, New York Times |
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