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The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast

CNLP 720 | Why Woke Broke: Mark Sayers on the Massive Trump-Era Cultural Upheaval and How to Find Hope in New Global Chaos

The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast

Carey Nieuwhof

Management, Business

4.82.2K Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2025

⏱️ 96 minutes

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Summary

Mark Sayers brings astonishing insight to the rapid cultural, economic, and political change we're seeing right now in America and globally. Carey and Mark cover why woke broke, the massive upheaval of the status quo being ushered by Trump and his cadre, and how to find hope for the church in the new global chaos.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

The Art of Leadership Network.

0:02.9

You've seen X go from Jack Dorsey to Musk, so that's changed X.

0:07.9

Zuckerberg has had this come-to-Trump moment.

0:10.8

Across left-wing parties, across the world,

0:13.2

are having behind-doors meeting saying,

0:15.5

this stuff is killing us.

0:17.0

We have to pivot and reinvent.

0:19.0

So that's my sort of overarching case why woke, broke in 2024.

0:27.4

Welcome to the Keri-Newhofe leadership podcast. It's Keri here, and I hope our time together today.

0:31.9

Helps you thrive in life and leadership while you have come to the right place. If you have had a little bit of disorientation,

0:39.9

instability, your head spinning because of what's going on in the world, well, this is going to

0:45.3

put that in perspective in a way like very few other people could. I've got Mark Sayers on the podcast.

0:51.2

You've come to the right place. We're talking about why this is the season

0:55.6

where woke broke, the massive Trump era cultural upheaval that's happening before our eyes,

1:02.0

and how to find hope in the new global chaos. And we are entering into a very different era. Mark's out of

1:08.7

breath too, okay? So it's not just you. You might be excited about

1:11.7

the changes. Disturbed by the changes, the reality is culture is changing. And if culture is

1:17.1

changing, that means we have to figure it out as leaders. Consider this. It's a little bit longer

1:21.9

than most episodes, but a 90-minute primer you want to save it, maybe share it with some friends.

1:26.5

One of my favorite episodes

1:27.6

as I teased out last week that, well, that we've done in a long, long time. So there is rapid,

1:33.9

cultural, economic, political change. The world we grew up in is disappearing in real time.

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