Cognitive Bypassing, Traumatic Experiences, and Managing Triggers with Simone Saunders

Being Well with Forrest Hanson and Dr. Rick Hanson

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🗓️ 9 September 2024

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Forrest dives into cognitive bypassing - a common strategy many of us use to avoid feeling difficult emotions - with trauma therapist Simone Saunders. Simone and Forrest discuss the connection between cognitive bypassing and trauma before exploring somatic tools that can help us avoid an endless cycle of overthinking, and fully process our experiences. They focus on the “freeze” and “fawn” stress responses, and talk about how these responses can impact our relationships and everyday interactions. The conversation widens from there to include topics like letting go of unhealthy relationships, navigating the shame that can come with self-awareness, working through triggers, finding more agency, and changing our models of conflict. You can watch this episode on YouTube. Key Topics: 0:00: Introduction 1:25: What’s cognitive bypassing? 5:55: Somatic approaches, and widening the window of tolerance 18:10: The freeze and fawn responses 22:25: Grieving letting go of unhealthy relationships 26:20: Shame, the problem with self-awareness, and identifying your values 35:35: How to move through “first contact” with our triggers 38:05: Feeling connected to others 41:55: Agency, and being embodied in a relationship 47:30: Changing how we see conflict 51:15: Grief as self-awareness, and expressing ourselves 57:25: Recap I am now writing on Substack, check out my work there. Support the Podcast: We're now on Patreon! If you'd like to support the podcast, follow this link. Sponsors Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/beingwell. Transform your health with the ZOE Science & Nutrition podcast. Find it wherever you listen to podcasts. Trust your gut with Seed’s DS-01 Daily Synbiotic. Go to Seed.com/BEINGWELL and use code 25BEINGWELL to get 25% off your first month. OneSkin focuses on delivering more than superficial results for your skin. Get started today with 15% off using code BEINGWELL at oneskin.co. Join over a million people using BetterHelp, the world’s largest online counseling platform. Visit betterhelp.com/beingwell for 10% off your first month! Connect with the show: Subscribe on iTunes Follow Forrest on YouTube Follow us on Instagram Follow Forrest on Instagram Follow Rick on Facebook Follow Forrest on Facebook Visit Forrest's website Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hey everyone, welcome to being well. I'm Forrest Hanson. If you're new to the show, thanks for listening today, and if you've listened before, welcome back.
0:14.0	Feel your feelings is advice that's become almost cliche, and it appears in everything from South Outbooks,
0:19.1	casual conversations, to podcasts like this one.
0:21.7	If you've been listening for a while you've
0:23.4	probably heard us talk about similar topics. On the one hand, feeling our
0:27.2	feelings is something that we do naturally. On the other, many of us have
0:30.5	become experts at avoiding our emotions, often without even realizing it.
0:34.8	Whether we're doing it by mindlessly scrolling or over intellectualizing,
0:38.8	it's almost always going to be easier to not pay attention to the feelings that need our attention the most. This is sometimes
0:44.6	known as cognitive bypassing and I've been really looking forward to talking about it, including
0:49.2	a bunch of other topics as well with today's guest trauma therapist Simone
0:52.9	Saunders. So Simone thanks for joining me today. How are you doing?
0:55.8	Good, thank you so much for having me. I'm excited. Yeah, same. So to tell you a
0:59.9	little bit more about Simone, she has a master's in clinical social work is the
1:03.6	founder of the Cognitive Corner, which is a therapy clinic and please correct me if
1:07.7	I'm wrong, but I think it's Alberta, Canada, and has a very popular social
1:11.0	media presence with over half a million followers on
1:13.6	Tic-Toc, a bunch of other followers on other places, and speaking of Tic-Toc, I
1:17.9	first bumped into your work through a video that you did on cognitive
1:21.2	bypassing. There's a line that people who listen are
1:23.6	probably familiar with, research is research, and I wanted to start by asking you,
1:27.2	are you a bit of an intellectualizer by nature? Yeah, I would say so and I think
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