If there's an idea and you talk it out and that makes it shrink rather than grow,

maybe that's a good indicator that it's not really something that's going to have the

momentum to carry through and this is where this sense of

longevity I think fits in a little bit.

Hello and

welcome to episode 258 of art Jews, the podcast being recorded in England in July that's

pretending to be October.

This is honest, generous and humorous conversations

that will feed your creative soul

and get you thinking with me Alice Sheridan.

And me, Louise Fletcher.

We've got a little bit of a general round-upy episode today.

We're going to catch up a bit with what we have both been doing.

Have a little discussion about something that is core to every

artist's way of working, one of the key things that comes up in our work.

Yeah and then we've got a slightly more open conversation to be had.

So let's just have it. I'm going to admit that I'm a little bit low on sleep

because I stayed up to just check our election results. So I'm running on I match sticks and an early cup of tea to keep me going but how has your week been what have you been

doing well I'm in cumbria at the new property and we've made big strides forward this week.

We've worked a lot on the land so I've got a bad back so I'm shuffling around in my seat because

I've hurt my back partly because I fell in some mud yesterday. That was nice. But we have worked a lot on the property has a wooded area and some like garden areas that were totally overgrown.

This is the property that I'm going to be hopefully fingers crossed using for workshops

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