Hi, I'm Gary Stearman of Prophecy Watchers, and today I'm talking with Michael Gagliardi,

and he is a gentleman with whom I've had a long conversation prior to this, and I have really

been impressed by his message. Michael, welcome to Prophecy Watchers. Good to see you.

Thank you for having me. It's a warm day here in the Coachella Valley. It's 110 degrees.

I don't know where you guys are, but I'm sure it's cooler.

110 degrees. Well, at least you don't have to have any artificial heat.

You've got all the heat you need.

I'm right. Brian.

Michael, you have a story that I want you to share, and I'd like to chat with you during the time

that you're sharing of this, because we take, I think, this world for granted. I think human beings doing their

daily thing tend to take coming and going, eating breakfast, eating supper, sleeping, you

know, and if by some chance we go to church,

and if we get saved in the vernacular, then we go to church on Sunday and everything is just

fine and that's kind of the view that people have of Christianity. Talking to you, you get an entirely

different view. In fact, in your early childhood, you grew up with a firsthand knowledge that

this world is not just all sweetness and light,

and it's not all just going to church and coming home and making money.

There's a deeper and darker aspect to life.

And let's start right there and talk about where you came from

and how you grew up.

Well, I grew up in the Toronto area in Ontario, Canada.

I was born in Otoboco, which is one of the boroughs.

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