The camera always had a purpose and every cut needed to have a real purpose.

But the story is so much told through Rave's eyes and ears.

And it's almost, in a way, Stanley references a chess game in the beginning.

To me, the movie was like a chess game.

Music Hello and welcome back to the Directors' Cut, brought to you by the Directors Guild of America.

In this episode, a Cardinal finds himself at the center of a conspiracy in director Edward

Berger's dramatic thriller, Conclave. The film follows Cardinal Lawrence, who is tasked with

leading one of the world's most ancient events, the selection of a new pope.

Surrounded by powerful religious leaders in the halls of the Vatican, he soon uncovers a trail of

deep secrets that could shake the very foundation of the Roman Catholic Church.

In addition to Conclave, Berger's other directorial credits include the feature films

All Quiet on the Western Front, All My Loving, and Jack, the movie for Television A Good

Summer, the miniseries Patrick Melrose, and episodes of Your Honor and The Terror.

Following a screening of the film at the DGA Theater in Los Angeles, Berger spoke with

director Jay Roach about filming Conclave. Listen on for their spoiler-fill conversation. Hello.

Thank you very much.

First of all, I want to apologize that I'm wearing a dinner suit.

But I was forced into it.

Or no, I dressed up for you.

It looks great.

And I'm going to talk about clothes in this movie so it's

appropriate. So we'll get into it. I just, I've got to walk in at the last minute. I've seen

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