Oh, I know a few of you listening to the show. I've met a few of you over the years.

Some I know outside of the show, just people from college or my neighborhood who happen to be

listening. One of you listening is my mom. Hi. But most of you I haven't met. Yet I feel confident

in saying that very few of you, probably, I think,

have climbed some of the highest mountains in the world, especially in winter. Not a lot of you,

I'm guessing, have taken pictures of yourself that have ended up on the cover of National Geographic.

But I bet a lot of you survive difficult

things in childhood. A lot of you have faced violence. And a lot of you have made some big

mistakes in your adult lives. Some of you have really let people down. And I know that more than a few

of you have dealt with mental health

conditions. So we all have a lot in common with each other and with our guests this week. It's

Depression Mode. I'm John Moe. I'm glad you're here.

Today, we'll talk to someone with a background of mental health problems who dealt with an unstable home and violence, who was behaved in a way that caused harm to others,

and someone who, yeah, climbed some of the highest peaks in the world, nearly died as a

result, and who was a world-class photographer. Corey Richards is a climber, a mountaineer, and a photographer.

He is the first American to climb one of the 14, 8,000-plus meter mountains of the world in the winter.

His photography has frequently appeared in National Geographic magazine.

Corey is the author of a new memoir, The Color of Everything,

a journey to quiet the chaos within.

In the book, he talks about his life as a kid, including with his brother.

Brothers often compete, wrestle, pick on each other a little bit, but this went far beyond

the normal, into physical violence and real lasting traumatic damage.

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