Could the war on terror be over?

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🗓️ 16 August 2022

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Vox senior correspondent Zack Beauchamp and Vox senior foreign writer Jonathan Guyer discuss the killing of al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri, one of the organizers behind the September 11, 2001, attacks on the US. His death marks a turning point in the “war on terror” and US foreign policy, but what kind of turning point? Can we say the war on terror is over, or is it just entering a new stage? References: What Ayman Zawahiri’s death tells us about terrorism and US foreign policy Ayman al-Zawahiri’s death by drone was President Biden’s opportunity to end the war on terrorism No one has been held accountable for the catastrophic Afghanistan withdrawal Where in the world are Russians going to avoid sanctions? Hosts: Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox Jonathan Guyer (@mideastXmidwest), senior foreign policy writer, Vox Credits: Sofi LaLonde, producer and engineer Libby Nelson, editorial adviser Amber Hall, deputy editorial director of talk podcasts Want to support The Weeds? Please consider making a donation to Vox: bit.ly/givepodcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to another episode of The Weeds.
0:17.3	I'm Zach Beechum.
0:18.3	I've been a periodic guest host here at The Weeds, but you may also know me from my stint
0:23.5	hostingworldly, Fox's dearly departed form Balcy Talkshow.
0:27.4	And that's the kind of topic we're going to be returning to today.
0:30.4	I have guests here.
0:31.4	It's very exciting.
0:32.4	Jonathan Geyers, one of Fox's reporters covering form policy and form affairs.
0:36.3	Hey, Jonathan.
0:37.3	Hey, Zach.
0:38.3	So we are here because you may remember this in early August, the Biden administration
0:43.9	announced that a drone strike had killed.
0:46.0	I'm in the Oswahiri, who is the head of Al Qaeda and was the long time number two, his
0:52.0	role in 9-11 is somewhat contested.
0:55.5	Many people say it's smaller than it's widely presumed to be, but he was, you know, the
0:58.6	group's number two at the time of the attack.
1:01.0	His death sparked a lot of conversation.
1:03.1	In particular, Jonathan and I published kind of opposed pieces on Fox.
1:07.5	I was basically arguing that we are in a post-war on terror era.
1:11.4	And Jonathan is arguing that actually the war on terrorism, we can get into why you would
1:16.4	say war on terror versus war on terrorism, but he's arguing, you know, actually a lot of
1:21.4	the things associated with it are continuing and we can't just say this is over by any
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