Hey, you're listening to Unlimited Hangout, I'm your host Whitney Webb.

We are already back with a new episode, as I mentioned in the last podcast with Robbie

Martin.

I'm hoping to put out more episodes this month because of health issues that kept me

from podcasting most of May and part of April.

Since I'm playing catch-up a little bit with this podcast, I've been looking to cover

some major events that took place while I was away.

In addition to what I've discussed with Robbie in the last podcast, I've also been eager

to cover the relatively sudden pivot regarding the attention now being given by mainstream

media and some alternative media outlets to the lab leak theory and more broadly the possibility

that the origins of COVID-19 could be related to gain-of-function experimentation.

Through aggressively censoring such discussion throughout last year, something has obviously

shifted in recent months raising the question as to why and why now.

Of course, in discussing such theories, the Wuhan Institute of Virology has figured prominently

for obvious reasons.

However, despite now being recently deemed safe, quote-unquote safe, to discuss in mainstream

and some independent media circles, a few have tackled the considerable involvement at

the Wuhan lab of US government entities or funding, or the possibility that the breaches

last year at the US's biosafety level for lab at Fort Dietrich Maryland could have played

a role in the origins of the condition.

To discuss this and more, I am joined today by Sam Hussaini, Sam is a Maryland-based journalist

and artist who has written for counter-punch anti-war, the nation's salon consortium

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