Creating Equal Partners Through Division of Labor with Eve Rodsky
Conversations with Cam
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4.7 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 5 June 2024
⏱️ 67 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, I sit down with Eve Rodsky, creator, founder, and author of Fair Play: a life-management and household organization system. Eve and I discuss her feminist upbringing and how her experiences in the corporate world were inhospitable to motherhood, how she created the Fair Play system and why a “blueberry text” from her husband was the catalyst, and why it’s essential to change from the reactive to the systematic when implementing change. Eve talks about the burden of invisible work that women so often take upon themselves in the home, she explains how the Fair Play cards work, and we discuss listener feedback on the most difficult parts of the mental load. Finally, we talk about why it’s so hard to have these conversations with our partners, what defines a “unicorn space” versus other types of fun, and why it is essential for our happiness and longevity to create “I can’t fucking believe I just did that” moments in our lives.
Key Takeaway / Points:
- Why I recommend Eve’s method to anyone who will listen
- On “Fair Play,” Eve’s life-management and household organization method
- Eve’s upbringing in a post-70s feminist wave
- Eve’s experience as a young mother in the corporate world
- Why America isn’t designed to support mothers
- On the goal of being consistently interested in your own life
- Why “hobbies” are not serving us
- The “blueberry text” that led to Eve creating the Fair Play system
- On changing from the reactive to the systematic
- On invisible work and “The Shit I Do” spreadsheet
- A deep dive into how the Fair Play cards work
- Listener feedback on the most difficult parts of the mental load
- Why it’s so difficult to have these conversations
- Why society views women’s time as infinite
- On the sanctity of “unicorn space”
- On creating “I can’t fucking believe I just did that” moments for yourself
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Buy the Fairplay card deck here
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| 0:00.0 | The following podcast is a dear media production. |
| 0:04.0 | Hi everyone, I'm Peyton Sarten, host of the Note to Self Podcast. |
| 0:11.0 | Note to self is a space to embrace your unique qualities, get grounded, and ultimately have honest conversation. |
| 0:16.0 | No topic is off limits. |
| 0:18.0 | I began doing social media seven years ago and since then I've started a clothing line and this podcast. |
| 0:24.0 | Note to Self is a place where people from every stage of life can come for advice, |
| 0:28.0 | new perspectives and to feel a little less alone. |
| 0:30.0 | Whether I'm recording by myself or bringing along a friend, we will explore topics ranging from relationships and mental wellness to social media and entrepreneurship. |
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| 0:44.1 | wanted. |
| 0:46.0 | If I could make one podcast episode a like mandatory listen for people who are either about to have kids or have kids, |
| 0:56.6 | especially if you're in a heterosexual relationship for your male partner to listen to, |
| 1:01.7 | it would be this one. |
| 1:03.6 | There is so much information and just like abundance of wisdom in this episode that I found |
| 1:10.9 | myself when we were editing it, listening over and over and over again and wanting to like I want to promote the entire I just want to make a clip of everything in this episode because I want to promote it over and over again because it's so fucking good. |
| 1:24.5 | I am so honored to have Eve Rodsky on the show today. |
| 1:28.4 | If you don't know Eve, I refer to her as like the ultimate queen of division of labor like she is my |
| 1:37.2 | guru for this topic and if you've listened to the show before and if you follow me on social media, you know that I am a huge |
| 1:45.7 | proponent of division of labor and I've done so many episodes on this. I've referenced it so many times and |
| 1:50.8 | with this topic I always reference the fair play car deck that my |
| 1:55.1 | husband and I did where we sat down and we like divided the tasks of who owns what |
| 1:59.9 | and it just freed up so much space in my brain and like released a lot of the |
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