As a musician, Tura is my favorite and least favorite part of the job.

You've got long drives, gas station sandwiches, shared hotel bathrooms, but on the good nights, you'll also get them.

Hundreds, maybe even thousands of people, collected into one room, also get them.

Hundreds, maybe even thousands of people,

collected into one room feeling the same way at the same time.

Sometimes you feel like an entertainer,

but sometimes it feels like a rally or like you're at church.

I'm not a religious or a spiritual person, but that simultaneity of shared experience is a communion.

Everybody lit up by the music and by one another.

My name is Dessa.

The name of the podcast you're attending is deeply human.

And today we're asking, why did crowds move you?

Let the show begin.

The first act on the bill is a master of crowd control.

And not too modest to tell you all about it.

Hi, my name is Saifa Sounds.

I'm very famous in New York.

Saifa is a live DJ and a stand-up comic and is like 1,000% New York.

Listen, I'm an expert name dropper.

My first big gig ever was with Little Kim.

I worked with everybody DJ Wise, Hot 97 Wise, J.Z.

I broke Rihanna.

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