CURIOUS CALLBACK: Episode #35, Rivals-- Lee Krasner and Elaine de Kooning vs. Their Husbands

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ArtCurious

Arts, History, Visual Arts

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🗓️ 13 March 2023

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Anyone familiar with Abstract Expressionism will tell you that this art movement was one where all the insiders or practitioners were more closely involved than many other art movements. Such close confines also made for some serious rivalries, too. But there were other artists who were more intimately involved with one another and their artistic process-- they were married, or were lovers. Such is the case with both Jackson Pollock and Willem de Kooning --both of whom married women who were incredible artists in their own right. Interestingly, and sadly, when these two spouses are mentioned, it’s very rare that we are treated to sincere commentary just about their works of art. More often than not, we are, instead, given explanations of how these women measure up to their (admittedly more famous) husbands, and are relegated either to a supporting role, or just plain seen as not good enough in comparison. Why is it that such talented women continue to have their posthumous careers and stories marked and shaped by their husbands? Please SUBSCRIBE and REVIEW our show on Apple Podcasts and FOLLOW on Spotify Sponsor ArtCurious for as little as $4 on Patreon Instagram / Facebook / YouTube SPONSORS: Lomi: Enjoy $50 off a Lomi Composter by visiting our link and using promo code ARTCURIOUS Mau: Upgrade your cat furniture stylishly and sustainably at maupets.com. To advertise on our podcast, please reach out to [email protected] or visit https://www.advertisecast.com/ArtCuriousPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:28.6	hi there everyone welcome back to our curious I am here with you today for a curious
0:35.1	callback episode of our show if you happen to listen to our news
0:39.0	episode last week, you'll know that I am preparing for the release of season 13 of our show on
0:44.4	April 3rd, and this episode is a little callback that relates to the theme of the upcoming season.
0:50.8	So I wanted to share it with you again here. I'll be back with you at the end of this
0:55.3	week with another news episode and then April 3rd back with an all-new season. Enjoy.
1:05.5	Anyone familiar with abstract expressionism would basically tell you what I'm about to tell you.
1:11.8	That this art movement was one where all the insiders or practitioners were more closely involved than many
1:16.9	other art movements, though of course there are exceptions. Most Ab-X artists were friends,
1:22.7	working together, collaborating, bouncing ideas off of one another. Such close confines also make for some serious
1:29.6	rivalries, too. But there were other artists who were more intimately involved with one
1:34.5	another and their artistic process. They were married or were lovers. Such is the case with
1:40.5	both Jackson Pollock and Willem DeCooning, who were the subjects of our last episode.
1:44.9	Both of these men married women who were incredible artists in their own right.
1:49.7	Interestingly, and sadly, when these two spouses are mentioned, it's very rare that we are treated
1:55.4	to sincere commentary just about their works of art. More often than not, we are instead given explanations of how these women measure up to their
2:05.1	admittedly more famous husbands and are relegated either to a supporting role or just plain
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