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Hey, what's going on? Welcome to another episode of Soft Rep Radio. I am your host, Rad. Before I introduce my next guest, who took us two days to get together, see today's the 31st of July, and for him it's the first of August, but I'll get into that just in a second.

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I believe our New Zealand is going to correct me, and I'm going to guess he's D Squadron, but I'm not going to say 22. What are you? Welcome.

Hey, man. Red, thank you so much. Yeah, dude. New Zealand DSCS at the time. It was first New Zealand Special Air Service group. I was a commando in D Squadron at the time, actually.

Our unit was formed in 2005. It was called the town counter-terrorist tactical assault group, and then it moved on to being renamed as commando's.

And we can talk about the distinction there between SIS, Spage, Green Roll operators and commando operators, two different sort of things of them.

Now, D Squadron, and yeah, man, all the way from New Zealand, and you know, the our heritage literary goes back with 22 back to the Iranian Embassy, Cegin, all the black roll stuff.

My role was just like with the no gloves, right? No gloves, right? Is that the no gloves, right? The Iran Cegin, the no gloves, right? What's his name? Hold on. I know it.

I tried to get him on the show, but I do have a friend from 22, but he's out of England. Do you guys work together if you guys were 20? Did you know Phil Campion?

Oh, Phil. So I've been trying to get Phil on the show. Nice guy. Oh, no kid. Yeah, straight up. He's got such an amazing story.

So New Zealand, Australia and British Special Air Service, you know, literally what Delta was based on on 22. We all collaborate.

We had a guy from 22 came over and do some training exercises with us for about two or three months.

Then he went on to the A Squadron at the time, the the Badge Air Service operators. Yeah, it's great to collaborate.

The things he told me, I can't tell him, they're still there's still a secret.

For the listeners, we'll call it confidential, but the classic that actual briefing was a secret.

But the things he told us about how you take down jumbo jets, which I don't even know if they're in operation anymore, was brilliant.

Those guys, the leaders in hostage rescue, absolutely phenomenal.

Counter-terrorist hostage rescue going after it.

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