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Daniel Lubetzky and Lonnie Ali: Fighting hate with humanity

1 big thing

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🗓️ 21 December 2023

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

"As a passionate Muslim and a passionate Jew, we have come together to humbly share a path forward for how to transcend the construct of 'us vs. them' and side with humanity instead." That's from a recent open letter to college students across America, written by Daniel Lubetzky, founder of KIND Snacks, and Lonnie Ali, co-founder of the Muhammad Ali Center and wife of the late Muhammad Ali. Lonnie and Daniel have both witnessed the growing hatred on American college campuses as the Israel-Hamas war rages on, and they say students themselves are at the heart of the solution. In their letter, they detail what they call ten ways to side with humanity, including: "It helps, not hurts, your cause to empathize with the pain of the other side" and "to get the full story, pop your social media bubble." Plus: the new challenges for DEI programs on college campuses. Guests: Daniel Lubetzky, founder of KIND Snacks and co-founder of the Starts with Us movement; Lonnie Ali, co-founder of the Muhammad Ali Center, and wife of the late Muhammad Ali. Credits: 1 big thing is produced by Niala Boodhoo, Alexandra Botti, and Jay Cowit. Music is composed by Alex Sugiura. You can reach us at [email protected]. You can send questions, comments and story ideas as a text or voice memo to Niala at 202-918-4893. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Anti-Semitism and Islamophobia are on the rise on college campuses.

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To hear a Jewish student or a Muslim students talk about they didn't feel safe.

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And this is a place where they go to learn.

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It's supposed to be a special time in their lives.

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And instead of being able to do that fully,

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they have to be worried about their physical safety.

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One Jewish and one Muslim voice

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share their roadmap for a more peaceful way forward

0:30.1

for college campuses and for all of us.

0:33.1

You do not see the moral high ground by dismissing the pain of the other side.

0:39.5

You do not become stronger in advocating for your people or advancing your people's goals by denying

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the other side's humanity. I'm Nailaboodoo. For Maxios this is one big thing. As a passionate Muslim and a passionate Jew,

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we have come together to humbly share a path forward

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for how to transcend the construct of us versus them inside with

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humanity instead.

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That's from a recent open letter to college students across America, written by Daniel

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Leibsky and Lonnie Ali. Daniel is founder of Kind Snacks and co-founder of the

1:21.2

Starts with Us movement and is Jewish.

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Lonnie Ali, co-founder of the Mohammed Ali Center and wife of the late Mohammed Ali

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is Muslim. She's also a founding partner of Starts With Us, which calls itself a movement working to end, quote,

1:35.3

polarizing politics and endless culture wars.

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Lonnie and Daniel have both witnessed the growing hatred on college campuses as the Israel Hamas war

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