Hi, Jack. Hey, hey, we got a special guest on the podcast today. We do. Yeah, this is this is Jack our editor on our darkness fall series and we're talking about what we're thinking for darkness fall season two before we jump right into that. I think Jack might be our best

camera like cinematic camera. Okay, yeah, in darkness fall. Yeah, for sure. He operates a mean spectator camera. Yeah, we'll call him. Call that out right now.

Yeah. He's holding it in and he's yeah, we knew I knew it was special that he'd be great for spectator cam. When I came in one day and he had a damn flight stick.

Yeah, it is. What are you doing? I'm like, I got a flight stick here with 30 buttons on it. I can use for spectator cam. I was like, all right, man, you were taking it in the next level and I love it. Watch it, watch it. I'm because my desk is like just across the in that room from a minute looking back. It's a thing of beauty. Yeah, so you because I've never done damn. I don't think I've ever tried to do spectator cam in darkness falls because I'm playing, but you obviously you break from the camera. You move.

And I've seen you you move pretty quick. You get to a spot with the mouse and keyboard and then boom your switch to the controller. Yeah, for smoother movements. Yeah, well, I'm there. Yeah, it's got to teleport around quick because stuff's only rendered like around my body. It's just weird how that works. Right. So you have to teleport your players body. Yeah, and then put yourself under the ground. Yeah, and then I control the camera. And you've gotten to the point where it's like muscle memory. Yeah, it's been doing this for so freaking long. How long has it been? I want to say like close.

Say like close to three ish years, it was crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. You like the job still. Yeah, yeah, well good. Yeah, at least seven days of my favorite.

I was just talking to Duke Duke is who hooked us up with you. I was talking to Duke like two days ago. Duke Fire who is the he's the film director at a Cape Fear Community College. Yeah, I love Duke. Oh, yeah, we all do. He actually offered himself, because I said, he's like, oh,

because I told them we, you know, about the podcast.

He's like, oh, you guys do that.

Oh, okay.

That sounds like it.

And he totally offered himself.

And I'm like, dude, it's like, we've been doing this

for like four years, the podcast, I think.

And I'm like, you were like one of the very first people

that we talked about.

Like if we were ever had anyone come in, you know,

because just because he's got stories,

he's like, I got stories about you guys

that people would like to hear.

Yeah, we should have Duke on.

I know we talked about it for years.

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