4.1 • 105 Ratings
🗓️ 27 January 2023
⏱️ 38 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Labour peer and Shadow Cabinet minister Baroness Jenny Chapman and Sir Jonathan Jones KC, the government’s former top lawyer, join PoliticsHome's Alain Tolhurst and Adam Payne to discuss the implications of the government’s controversial plans to scrap thousands of EU laws by the end of 2023.
Presented by Alain Tolhurst, produced for Nick Hilton for Podot, edited by Laura Silver
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to The Rundown, a podcast from Politics Home. I'm your host, Alan Tolhurst. |
0:09.1 | With me to discuss the implication of the government's controversial plans to scrap thousands of EU laws by then in 2023 is our political editor, Adam Payne. |
0:16.2 | We're also joined by Labour peer Baroness Jenny Chapman, shadow minister of state at the Cabinet Office and a former shadow of Brexit |
0:21.0 | who's also Kirstammer's political director, who has a responsibility for Brexit within her party. |
0:26.4 | Also joining us is Jonathan Jones, Casey, a leading barrister who was Treasury solicitor and a permanent secretary of the government legal department for six years until he resigned over plans to override parts of the Brexit deal in Northern Ireland in 2020. |
0:40.8 | So I'm going to start with you, Adam. We're going to talk about the EU retained law bill. |
0:43.8 | First of all, what exactly is the EU-retained rule bill? Where exactly are we with this piece of legislation? |
0:48.8 | It's cleared. It's commons hurdles for the moment and is off to the House of Lords. I think |
0:53.7 | it's going to be back in the House of Lords maybe at the start of next month. |
0:56.7 | Just explain kind of what that legislation is and what it's going to mean. |
1:00.2 | Yes, it's a very complex piece of legislation, I guess, for people who aren't, you know, |
1:05.3 | enormously familiar with sort of legal jargon and whatnot. |
1:09.2 | But to try and boil it down into its simplest terms, |
1:11.5 | a retained EU law bill. So when we left the European Union, we stopped being a member, |
1:15.7 | obviously, but there were lots of laws still in our statute book derived from when we were |
1:20.9 | EU members covering all sorts of things and workplace rights to product safety, to aviation |
1:27.4 | regulations, all sorts of stuff. And as part of delivering |
1:31.6 | Brexit, successive Tory governments have been committed to eventually deciding what to do with all |
1:36.8 | of that EU law. Now, the plan to do that is set out in a retained EU law bill, which, as you said, is going through its journey in Parliament at the moment. |
1:47.1 | Why it's contentious is that the government has given itself an arbitrary deadline of completing this task by the end of the year. |
1:56.6 | Now, when you speak to people in Whitehall, Jonathan, who's with us today, I discussed it with him a few weeks ago, about the nature of this task, the scale of the task. |
2:06.9 | Everyone agrees. It's an enormous challenge. |
... |
Transcript will be available on the free plan in -794 days. Upgrade to see the full transcript now.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from PoliticsHome, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of PoliticsHome and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2025.