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The Rich Roll Podcast

Dave Roll: Meditations On Character, Integrity & Leadership

The Rich Roll Podcast

Rich Roll

Health & Fitness, Education, Self-improvement, Society & Culture

4.8 β€’ 12.9K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 1 July 2019

⏱️ 133 minutes

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Summary

For reasons both obvious and perhaps less so, this week's episode holds a very special place in my heart. There is something unique about sitting before a microphone that permits a species of conversation difficult to otherwise have. Done right, the inherent formality of putting it all on the record can countenance an experience of rare intimacy that scarcely transpires in the course of conventional human interaction. From the very beginning of this podcast journey, I've longed to host my father on the show. To provide a ceremonial opportunity to probe his life, uninterrupted. To learn things about him I've always wanted to know β€” but for whatever reason just never found the right occasion to ask. For years, I harbored the fear that if I didn't make such an experience a priority, it might never happen. And that would be something I would deeply regret for the rest of my days. My drive was never to share such an experience with an audience. I wasn't convinced the conversation I yearned for would be appropriate for public consumption. It's always been about creating a moment just for us. A document I could privately keep for posterity. And for my children. However, a compelling reason recently arose to transform this rumination into reality. A gentleman and a scholar, Dave Roll has spent the better part of his life studying history. The apex of this passion is an incredible new book entitled, George Marshall: Defender of the Republic*. An enthralling and deeply thoughtful chronicle of America's most distinguished soldier since George Washington, it's also a deeply prescient and timely meditation on selflessness, leadership, and the momentous importance of moral character in political and social structures. The embodiment of these ideals, Marshall influenced the course of two world wars, and helped define the American century. By way of background, my dad has enjoyed a very successful 35 year career as an accomplished attorney in the field of antitrust. Over the years, he successfully defended clients in investigations and enforcement actions brought by the Antitrust Division of the Department of Justice and the Federal Trade Commission. After government service at the FTC he matriculated to partner and ultimately managing partner of the prestigious Washington, D.C.- based international law firm Steptoe & Johnson. Later in his career, he founded the Lex Mundi Pro Bono Foundation, a non-profit, public interest organization that provides pro bono legal services to social entrepreneurs around the world. Now in his third act, Dave is enjoying a successful career as an author. Also historical biographies, his previous titles include The Hopkins Touch: Harry Hopkins and the Forging of the Alliance to Defeat Hitler* and Louis Johnson and the Arming of America*, a biography of Harry Truman's defense secretary. Enjoy! Rich Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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0:00.0

The thing about Marshall, though, is character matters and if you have to say anything about

0:09.4

the book, you say what is it about?

0:12.9

It's character.

0:14.4

Everybody knew he lived by a moral code that was above most others and they did not want

0:21.6

to displease him in any way.

0:24.1

He's called the man with a plan, but he did so much more.

0:29.8

So I have this great reverence for the way he conducted himself and the strong character

0:36.8

he had because he could have been president, he could have been anything.

0:41.9

Are we ever going to get back to the point where we have these kinds of people in our government?

0:48.7

Are we ever going to get back to the era where we have moral people that will take stands

0:53.9

on principle?

0:55.6

It's my dad, Dave Roll, this week on the Rich Roll Podcast.

1:10.6

The Rich Roll Podcast.

1:13.6

Okay, so this one for reasons both obvious and perhaps less so is pretty special.

1:23.3

It's a little unique.

1:25.2

I think there's something about the structure, the formality of sitting in front of a microphone

1:32.6

that allows it permits a certain kind of conversation and intimate experience that really

1:39.8

just generally doesn't happen otherwise.

1:42.3

There's this ceremonial aspect of it, the inherent decorum that creates a kind of undefinedable

1:50.4

window to go places with people that otherwise perhaps just wouldn't.

1:57.3

From the very beginning of this podcast, I've wanted to have my dad on the show to have

2:02.9

a reason to sit down uninterrupted and ask him all kinds of questions about his life.

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