I'm Jonathan Capehart and welcome to Capehart.

The International Rescue Committee released its new IRC Emergency Watch List of Nations

at greatest risk of humanitarian crisis in 2025.

Topping the list, Sudan.

David Miliband is the president and CEO of the International Rescue Committee.

He's also a former foreign secretary

of the United Kingdom. In this conversation, first recorded for Washington Post Live on December 11th,

three days after the fall of the Assad regime in Syria, Miliband gave his assessment of the situation

in Syria. He also talks about the crisis in Gaza and the

West Bank, what the IRC is doing to ease the suffering in the nations on the IRC watch list,

and what he would say to Elon Musk about the need for continued U.S. foreign aid.

I would love to sit down with Elon Musk and talk to him about how foreign aid delivers value for money,

how it can deliver more value for money, and how it's a strategic imperative, not just a moral imperative.

The truth is that the case for foreign aid is that it works.

It works in saving lives.

So before we dive into your new report, let me have you put your hat on as a former UK foreign secretary to get your assessment of the evolving situation in Syria.

What does the toppling of Bashar al-Assad mean for the humanitarian situation there and for the country's future?

Well, I think it's very relevant to the conversation we're going to have today, because the situation in Syria has been both a political emergency and a humanitarian emergency

since the Civil War started in 2011.

The International Rescue Committee currently has 850 people working on the ground in Syria,

about 450 in the northwest of the country, 400 in the northeast.

And we have not taken Syria off our emergency watch list in the last few years.

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