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Debate: Who Keeps the Torah? Bryson Gray Vs Jay Dyer Highlights

Jay'sAnalysis

Jay Dyer

Arts, Education, Comedy, Performing Arts

4.6823 Ratings

🗓️ 25 February 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Bryson Gray, who had me on a few months back to discuss Orthodoxy, comes on for a debate on the subject he finds most compelling - the status of the Law. Bryson describes himself as a "Christian who keeps the Torah" and takes issue with our view. We will have a formal debate on the topic.

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0:00.0

Um, so for my opening statement, the first thing I want to do is me and Jay sort of have trouble titling the thing because I, I don't think I thought I was missing each other. Um, but it's about do we have to keep Torah or not. So I don't know. I don't know if Jay as an orthodox Christian believes they do keep Torah.

0:26.3

But Torah is if anybody doesn't know it's the first five books of Moses and it's the law.

0:29.1

Whatever the Bible says the law is referring to that.

0:31.8

When it says the prophets and a writing is referring to the rest of the Tanakh.

0:37.8

Now secondly, as a Torah keeping Christian, I know that might come into shock. A lot of people don't believe Christians can do so.

0:40.7

I already understand I have the unpopular position in this scenario.

0:45.9

I'm used to it.

0:47.2

It's what I do.

0:48.3

It's what I've known for.

0:50.1

But somebody got to do it.

0:51.8

But with that being said, I probably been on like a hundred of these

0:55.4

types of debates people minds rarely change um people in the chat are going to support whoever

1:02.8

they are to support beforehand their mind's not going to change um so then the question is why am i

1:07.6

doing this i'm really only doing this for the remnant, for the people that have an open mind.

1:11.9

I just want to hear somebody out and hope that I get the same respect.

1:14.8

Which I flag out will with a moderator that I gave Jay Dyer when he was on my channel.

1:18.3

I let him tell us about Orthodox Christianity without argument, without interrupting, without anything.

1:25.4

So you have to get people that fair shot.

1:28.3

Now, Jay Dyer, who I like, by the way, he's known for debating.

1:34.3

Typically when it comes to Christian history, he's very good at that peer point blank.

1:40.3

But this debate for me is really just one question.

1:45.5

And it's a question that everybody knows I'm going to ask.

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