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Hello and welcome to the Safely Ridge on Sunday podcast,

where we dive a little deeper into the interviews from the programme.

And today we were joined by Nadine Zaharwe, who was the chairman of the Conservative Party, and also the German ambassador

to the UK Miguel Berger. Now, Scott, a producer, isn't with us today, but instead we have

Sebastian Payne, who is the Whitehall editor of the Financial Times.

Hello, Seb.

Great to have you with us.

Good morning, Sophie.

You're talking to us from Shropshire.

I think that's right, isn't it?

That's right.

I have to get the obligatory plug in there that I'm currently doing book promotion.

I've got a new book out called The Fall of Boris Johnson, all about the final nine months of his time in office. I've just been doing an event here.

I was interesting you were all about Boris Johnson.

I couldn't resist asking Nadine Zahawi, who of course is close to Boris Johnson, who backed him for the leadership,

if he thought that Boris could be waiting in the wings, if Rishy Sunek has a wobble at the May elections,

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