Hello, hello everybody and welcome to a fluently forward slash what I will say episode

I'm so excited to have Cam back on the podcast for I don't know like a 12th time like let's keep it going Cam

How you doing welcome back to the show? I'm doing amazing thrilled to be here as always. Thank you so much for having me

So Cam you've been on before we've done an episode talking about SwiftGron

You created basically the Taylor Swift Diana A-Gron timeline of their alleged relationship

Which is just like so fantastic you came on when you me and NT were doing the Taylor Swift awards

And then we did something fun about mythological creatures

But today we're talking all about Maddie Healy because Taylor and Maddie have people in a

catastrophic

Firestorm or at least my algorithms online. I don't know about you

I wasn't expecting them to get together. How do you feel about the recent? Well, you know, it's interesting

I have considered myself a

Tady are we calling it tady? Are we calling it mailer?

Do we have ship name? I've been calling it tady. I think it's kind of fun kind of flirty

Let's do tady. Yeah, let's do tady. There's rumors that they hooked up in 2014

And I always considered myself a bit of a skeptic kind of like oh did they come on like did we even see them together that much

But diving into this timeline has made me a believer

Yeah, the for some weird reason the second I heard the news

It's actually on video. It's one of Gabby's my girlfriend's vlogs

We were in Target and I got all these messages about Maddie and Taylor and and a news article from the Sun

I think came out about it and I was like oh this is true. I was like this is gonna be confirmed me too and like I

Like I really do just go off of my gut like that the minute I saw her and Carly Claus holding hands

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